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PD Moderator	Message Posted: May 23, 2012 1:30:37 PM Ignore PD Report Abuse We've all got our own mental list of places where our antennae go up when we approach them because we know we're driving through speed traps; those special places where states allow police to rob motorists in the name of 'highway safety'... Now groups dedicated to identifying the problem areas and opposing what they call "unfair driving taxes" are trying to make more people support traffic laws based on sound engineering principles and public consensus -- not political agendas. The National Motorists Association (NMA), a nonprofit organization dedicated to stopping the use of traffic tickets to "generate revenue", ranks the U.S. cities with the highest number of speed traps. Interestingly enough, NMA... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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We've all got our own mental list of places where our antennae go up when we approach them because we know we're driving through speed traps; those special places where states allow police to rob motorists in the name of 'highway safety'...

Now groups dedicated to identifying the problem areas and opposing what they call "unfair driving taxes" are trying to make more people support traffic laws based on sound engineering principles and public consensus -- not political agendas.

The National Motorists Association (NMA), a nonprofit organization dedicated to stopping the use of traffic tickets to "generate revenue", ranks the U.S. cities with the highest number of speed traps.

Interestingly enough, NMA...

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albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:7,332 Points:1,477,010 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jun 7, 2012 7:38:52 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse no problem dont speed
mrpc90 Champion Author Illinois Posts:8,132 Points:1,924,815 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Jun 7, 2012 7:07:35 AM Ignore mrpc90 Report Abuse Gauley Bridge, West Virginia. It's a dirty, run down, little "has-been" of a town... but the cops drive shiny new black Chargers with Hemis. Even the Google Maps car was pulled over. And yes, the photos are posted on Google maps. https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Scrabble+Creek,+Valley,+Fayette,+West+Virginia&hl=en&ll=38.164357,-81.196518&spn=0.040996,0.093513&geocode=FVt6RgIdd9so-w&hnear=Scrabble+Creek&t=m&z=15&vpsrc=0&layer=c&cbll=38.164383,-81.196304&panoid=unE5qoSHs8lN6CRtP3Ut1Q&cbp=12,79.94,,1,7.68
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,442 Points:1,323,805 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 2, 2012 2:48:11 PM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse I though Mississippi was the worse.
CartelBuster Veteran Author Detroit Posts:418 Points:1,578,060 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jun 1, 2012 9:40:56 PM Ignore CartelBuster Report Abuse Yeah, we have 'em here. I see cars pulled over all the time...local or out of state.
1tallford Sophomore Author Rhode Island Posts:128 Points:22,225 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: May 29, 2012 10:58:18 PM Ignore 1tallford Report Abuse Would prefer proactive presence among the cops. Forget the traps.
D61 Rookie Author British Columbia Posts:90 Points:82,575 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 29, 2012 10:16:51 PM Ignore D61 Report Abuse K
brian11236 Rookie Author New York Posts:2 Points:265 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 29, 2012 7:01:33 AM Ignore brian11236 Report Abuse Tell me about it...I live in Brooklyn.
VikingWoman Champion Author Washington Posts:1,246 Points:248,640 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 27, 2012 11:35:48 PM Ignore VikingWoman Report Abuse When I drove from the Midwest to Washington State in 1980 we barely saw any state patrol cars until we crossed into Washington. After we crossed the Idaho/Washington border there were so many we thought there was a manhunt! We had been forewarned not to drive over the 55 mph speed limit once we arrived and we did not speed - troopers everywhere! It's not like that anymore because of budget cuts. Furthermore, the troopers were once the best-dressed in the country. After the economy went sour I saw one at my workplace whose uniform looked so shabby I was concerned that he was impersonating an officer. My co-worker's husband works in LE and she explained, nope- the budget cuts have forced a hit on their uniforms. Despite the budget cuts, they still do a great job at keeping our roads and communities safe.
Donatelo Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,115 Points:290,865 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 26, 2012 9:30:53 AM Ignore Donatelo Report Abuse ok
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,419 Points:2,226,625 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 4:40:47 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse RBob - "Sounds like many think laws in general suck..??" Pass enough bad laws and have enough bad enforcement and pretty soon people start to think that all laws are bad.
clpassenubye Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:3,359 Points:750,755 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 11:51:41 AM Ignore clpassenubye Report Abuse maybe
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,442 Points:1,323,805 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 10:54:00 AM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse A penny sales tax and 2 police cars, 2 radar guns and small towns in Oklahoma have all the revenue they need.
albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:7,332 Points:1,477,010 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 7:54:08 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse dont speed no more worrys
123cowboy Champion Author Maine Posts:1,833 Points:403,570 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 25, 2012 4:39:48 AM Ignore 123cowboy Report Abuse every state has them....no surprise..
snappytom2 Champion Author Corpus Christi Posts:3,532 Points:273,790 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 10:42:28 PM Ignore snappytom2 Report Abuse Hmm.
otle53 Sophomore Author Las Vegas Posts:174 Points:51,060 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 6:05:51 PM Ignore otle53 Report Abuse Whoohoo! We're number 4!
pse91 All-Star Author Calgary Posts:640 Points:556,775 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 5:07:47 PM Ignore pse91 Report Abuse Hate speed traps. It would help if they would take the speedsters weaving in and out of traffic out of commission.
condé Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,726 Points:1,810,640 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 3:06:33 PM Ignore condé Report Abuse old news
Flagstar Veteran Author Waterbury Posts:303 Points:215,295 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 2:57:28 PM Ignore Flagstar Report Abuse Well, when your in the city limits and you smell a pig farm, slow down because your near a driver-tax funded, gestapo-police run speed trap. Simply, reroute your trip and stay informed on their locations. If you have to drive through one, buckle-up and watch your speed. Take off your sun- glasses because you may look too content and happy and they may pull you over for that too.I mean the whole point of the speed traps isn't to address problematic speeders, but to trim the everyday commuters freedom. In other words, look like a robot, so they won't think they have change you into one. It's kind of like terrorism isn't it. No explosions or violence but it seems to have a similar affect on Freedom and Expression. Now!, is it too far a stretch to see that nine eleven was some type of inside job? I know you people have some imagination, you should use it while you still can. If we let this continue, before long you will be punished and drugged just for thinking for yourself like some third world countries.
heydano67 Champion Author California Posts:1,646 Points:353,535 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 2:26:38 PM Ignore heydano67 Report Abuse Glad to be far from either of those places.
Alfied Champion Author Riverside Posts:7,920 Points:1,752,260 Joined:Jun 2001	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:40:21 PM Ignore Alfied Report Abuse Don't go there.
RBob Champion Author Portland Posts:3,357 Points:2,344,010 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:40:13 PM Ignore RBob Report Abuse Sounds like many think laws in general suck..??
CPGas1815 Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,027 Points:1,099,605 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:36:46 PM Ignore CPGas1815 Report Abuse As a Michigan resident and one who is dead set against just about everything Governor "Slick" Rick Snyder and is gang of Republican legislators have done to our state the sooner we get rid of this gang of thieves the sooner Michigan residents will no longer be treated like second class citizens.
WaWanderer Champion Author Washington Posts:4,315 Points:581,950 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:35:17 PM Ignore WaWanderer Report Abuse Ok
bigoilscamsus Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,058 Points:48,265 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:27:19 PM Ignore bigoilscamsus Report Abuse Ideas for the gas price protest signs!!! _BIG OIL SCAMS US-- GAS PRICE PROTEST--CONGRESS HELP US--BIG OIL SUCKS--STOP PRICE FIXING--US CRUDE FOR US GAS--BUILD MORE REFINERIES--GAS PRICES ARE HIGHWAY ROBBERY-- BIG OIL IS THE MOB--BIG OIL AND THE MONEY TREE--STOP PRICE MANIPULATION--buy NO GAS today--PIPELINES ARE THE PERFECT COVER UP--EXPORT PIPELINES EQUAL TAX EVASION--BIG OIL IS RACKETEERING--EXXONMOBIL'S PROFITS ARE SINFUL-
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,981 Points:594,810 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:26:44 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Old post.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,762 Points:640,725 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:24:32 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse You people who drive the speed limit stay out of my way. Oh, and cops suck.
Mr.Dirt Champion Author Albany Posts:8,351 Points:2,508,625 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:15:41 PM Ignore Mr.Dirt Report Abuse any road in the country
jony Champion Author Florida Posts:7,306 Points:1,629,315 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:15:27 PM Ignore jony Report Abuse I guess this only relates to saving money on gas by going slower in town
CTarp Champion Author Texas Posts:1,234 Points:604,630 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:13:51 PM Ignore CTarp Report Abuse No surprise
GRUMPY55 Champion Author California Posts:1,619 Points:421,450 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:12:43 PM Ignore GRUMPY55 Report Abuse ok
boldrph Champion Author Topeka Posts:18,354 Points:3,447,640 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:11:13 PM Ignore boldrph Report Abuse take the bus or train, not much of a problem
tml721 Champion Author Columbus Posts:12,595 Points:2,386,625 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:05:41 PM Ignore tml721 Report Abuse GOOD there needs to be more of them people need to learn to slow down and start out a journey earlier.
Car54BC08 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:4,234 Points:1,506,340 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:05:04 PM Ignore Car54BC08 Report Abuse Keep to the posted speed and you don't pay this tax.
mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,161 Points:1,928,430 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:02:31 PM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse There's something sneaky about speed traps; it's a cash grab without any element of fairness - the psychopath of transportation law enforcement.
wilbur_gas Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,702 Points:644,110 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 12:00:52 PM Ignore wilbur_gas Report Abuse Stay Away is Right!
Yooperheart Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,395 Points:523,025 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:59:48 AM Ignore Yooperheart Report Abuse LIVONIA, MI. has always been a TRAP zone. Avoid it like the plague.
friday21 Champion Author Toronto Posts:5,312 Points:681,385 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:59:24 AM Ignore friday21 Report Abuse Good places to stay away
peanutsMN Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,672 Points:382,965 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:56:10 AM Ignore peanutsMN Report Abuse Don't know-Never been there.
satrn38mpg Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,052 Points:1,050,015 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:55:03 AM Ignore satrn38mpg Report Abuse ok
amayne11 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:1,742 Points:496,095 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:53:00 AM Ignore amayne11 Report Abuse We need some laws
oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:6,412 Points:2,190,935 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:51:51 AM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse New York is ticket haven, beware!
miser709 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,268 Points:1,067,300 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:51:04 AM Ignore miser709 Report Abuse Michigan needs to catch the Illinois people speeding through our state at speeds exceeding 80 mph. Most of them also tailgate and have no respect for other drivers. Keep that crap in your own State as we have enough a-holes here already.
cricket48750 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:787 Points:410,555 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:50:14 AM Ignore cricket48750 Report Abuse I would welcome a speed trap in front of my house - in fact they could sit right in my driveway and pull people over all day long. I am sick of people flying down the road like it is a freeway!
idigau22 Champion Author Washington Posts:23,384 Points:3,197,985 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:49:23 AM Ignore idigau22 Report Abuse I have no worries! I will never be driving in Livonia Mich. or NYC.
2granny Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,555 Points:1,462,255 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:48:46 AM Ignore 2granny Report Abuse I agree, lots of extra revenue.
LSU_TIGERS_dmb Champion Author Louisiana Posts:1,714 Points:617,295 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:48:26 AM Ignore LSU_TIGERS_dmb Report Abuse Gov wanting money ONLY.. NOT about safe roads just taking from me and giving to someone who does not want to work
kuma2000 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,203 Points:670,150 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:48:05 AM Ignore kuma2000 Report Abuse don't think so
bcfuelsaver Champion Author Vancouver Posts:1,623 Points:246,270 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:45:58 AM Ignore bcfuelsaver Report Abuse lots of extra revenue.
marlita Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,307 Points:784,055 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: May 24, 2012 11:45:57 AM Ignore marlita Report Abuse old news