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pmurray63 Champion Author Detroit Posts:14,513 Points:2,996,850 Joined:Aug 2003	Message Posted: Aug 25, 2009 11:25:44 AM Ignore pmurray63 Report Abuse This is a thread devoted to global warming news.

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oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 8, 2012 8:14:11 PM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse "the planet is warming" Why is this bad? would you rather have waist deep snow every winter in canada. You do realize cooling is bad dont you? The "black death" happened on the down stride of the mid evil warm period. We dont need a repeat of that. "I can't help but think we'll go out like the dinosaurs did". A 6 mile wide astroid most likely took them out, they had no way to cause or prevent it from happening.
number4 Sophomore Author Tallahassee Posts:189 Points:40,425 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Sep 8, 2012 1:16:38 PM Ignore number4 Report Abuse "you will see that 65% of the monsoon induced glaciers are retreating" And if glaciers were growing this would be good why?
tasha88CA All-Star Author California Posts:602 Points:43,315 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 10:32:56 PM Ignore tasha88CA Report Abuse k
nayla2011 All-Star Author Toronto Posts:587 Points:13,365 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2011 12:58:49 AM Ignore nayla2011 Report Abuse I somehow think the loss of the polar caps is a huge hint that the planet is warming.I have found people usually find it's depressing to speak about and avoid the conversation. I wonder if all the flooding is a result of the melting glasiers. While there are a million worries especially with all of the man-made disasters lately, I can't help but think we'll go out like the dinosaurs did.
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 29, 2011 12:18:25 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse Art48 - "This shows that countries working together can actually change what is happening. " Actually, it shows that lots of idiots working together can flush lots of money down the toilet.
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2011 11:49:07 AM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse " Yes the hole in the ozone is still there. If you have done any reading on the subject you would know it is a natural phenomena". Thats what I was getting at. I have fallowed it some what. Most CFC levels have been dropping since early 2000s, but in 2006 and 2010 you had your 2 largest 0-zone holes to date. But with a sample size of 31 you wont have any idea what your standard deviation is any way.
lnmrtn All-Star Author Oklahoma Posts:825 Points:146,680 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Apr 28, 2011 6:58:39 AM Ignore lnmrtn Report Abuse I've noticed that instead of calling it global warming, they are now calling it climate change.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2011 11:23:43 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse oilpan4 - Yes the hole in the ozone is still there. If you have done any reading on the subject you would know it is a natural phenomena. However since the reducing of CFC's the size of the hole has gone down to more normal or previously average size. This shows that countries working together can actually change what is happening. Now please go back and do some more research on the subject.
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2011 10:40:34 PM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse Except that there's ALSO been record high temps and record low snowfall in other parts of the world oilpan. THAT'S why the repeated posting of lows or highs in any specific area is irrelevant. You guys need to find another hobby horse to ride because that one is dead.
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2011 9:44:38 PM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse Record cold and snow fall, clearly proof of AGW. You guys need to find another cause. I herd that hole in the 0-zone layer is still there. I like how you fixed that one, just passed some laws, considered it solved and moved on to the next lost cause.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2011 3:11:28 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse ldheinz - Why do you believe there is some sinister plot by climatologist to make the worlds population believe that the climate is warming when you say it isn't. What is their gain? Are they all going to become billionaires? There is clearly a possible linkage between big oil and king coal to make us believe that global warming is not happening: billions of dollars in lost revenue. But again where is the gain for those trying to show with actual data that it is indeed happening? You show me how all the climatologist are going to reap in tons of money and maybe I might believe your politically motivated theory. [Edited by: Art48 at 2/3/2011 4:11:47 PM EST]
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2011 10:08:21 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse It is unbelievable that some people will cite a particular extremely short term, and extremely local, weather or temperature situation...warm here that last two nights--or some such drivel...and use that as a support of global warming. (It works both ways, gougedQC.) FACT- we most certainly DO get WORLDWIDE temperatures and averages..from people whose salaries depend on showing global warming, and who have been shown to be falsifying their data. What we are also seeing is planetary warming at a time that ice core data shows is a period where we should expect to see planetary warming from purely natural causes. These phenomena were predicted decades ago by the same climatologists to be global cooling, not warming, and they tried to panic us then to give them more money. Stop looking at your politically correct research, and start looking at independent data which shows that the trends are inconclusive. Who among you for example remembers or even heard of the massive drought in the Atacama desert in Peru, that has lasted for thousands of years? Or that 12,000 years ago glaciers covered much of North America? Who cares about China's plan for a 50 year engineering project, based on PC beliefs? Or that Russia has had yet another of their periodic crop failures? Yes, completely ambiguous data is out there for people who don't filter it through their predetermined PC beliefs.
gougedQC Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,130 Points:69,885 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Feb 3, 2011 8:28:34 AM Ignore gougedQC Report Abuse It is unbelievable that some people will cite a particular extremely short term, and extremely local, weather or temperature situation...cold here that last two nights--or some such drivel...and use that as a denial of global warming. FACT- we most certainly DO measure WORLDWIDE temperatures and averages..just look on the NOAA site for example. What we are also seeing is extremely unusual weather trends (as the climate patterns change) with extreme droughts beyond what has ever been experienced before, extreme rains, very very unusual snowfall in areas absolutely not used to it...extremely violent storms etc etc These were phenomena predicted decades ago by early climatalogist studies of the effects of warming which creates changed climate. Also no one (NO ONE) ever said that warming is or would be linear, ie that one year would automatically be warmer than the next. However the trend is absolutely clear Stop looking at your back yard, and local newscasts which bring you only housefires, car accidents, robberies, and start looking at world news. Who among you for example remembers or even heard of the massive and veryu unusual drought in Argentina a couple years ago that killed millions of head of cattle? Who has heard of Chinas plan for a 50 year engineering project to divert a river northward to compensate for increased water use AND the changed climate in the northern growing region what about the massive drought in Russia last year which drove wheat prices up as the crop was reduced....and abnormal floods and on and on.. the evidence is there. The facts are there, just that some people with short term vested interests are spreading doubt, and individuals would rather believe that, than admit they have to change their lifestyles and expectations.
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Feb 2, 2011 11:06:19 AM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse "you will see that 65% of the monsoon induced glaciers are retreating" And if glaciers were growing this would be good why?
majjad Champion Author Dallas Posts:6,448 Points:1,429,400 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2011 11:49:15 PM Ignore majjad Report Abuse Art48 ~ that was a very interesting article... Thanks for sharing. I can certainly attest to "colder than the norm..." in the Dallas area with the low temperature the next few nights approaching single digits. The model presented in the article could explain a lot of data.
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2011 10:13:32 PM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse majjad – “Once again, catspaw is lying by misquoting and misrepresenting what others are posting:” Nope. That’s what you’ve been doing majjad, just like your usual. You apparently have no clue what you’re talking about, again like usual. First of all, how can I be “misquoting” when I haven’t quoted you on anything? You have a really active imagination there. Or is it just majjad lying again? “Misrepresenting? Hardly. You made a post about cold temperatures in Britain. I said that somebody (didn’t even say it was you) was “taking one local item and thinking it’s important.” So if that’s not what you were doing, then why WERE you making such a post? It’s a typical GW denier MO, posting a cold temp from one area as if it actually means something globally. Along with many others, you’ve done it before, so give me a reason to think that’s not what you were doing this time. Perhaps some instances where you’ve posted unusually hot temperatures? I doubt if you’ve done that because it wouldn’t fit in with your ideology. Then you responded with your typical insults and some BS about “REAL FACTS”. So are you telling me that you don’t think it’s a real fact that Canada has had it’s warming decade in history? Seems to me that it’s YOU who’s the one in denial about real facts. So the truth (not the lie you spewed) is that I DIDN’T “misrepresent” any facts, but YOU did. As for an “arrogant and demeaning tone”, don’t try to tell me that you haven’t responded to me in an arrogant and demeaning tone before in the past because that would be another one of your lies. YOU just can’t man up enough to reap what you’ve sowed. (Maybe your panties are too tight?) majjad – “Catspaw is grossly misrepresenting the facts here: I never made ANY comment whatsoever concerning the Canadian data or my opinion concerning its importance.” BS. Another majjad lie. You said “..after being confronted with REAL FACTS..” don’t even pretend that you weren’t talking about the Canadian data because that’s the only thing I’d said. There’s nothing else that you could have been talking about. You even seem to have some sort of gender identity crisis. In one post, you refer to me as “her” and talk about panties, and in your most recent you say “His statement”. Make up your mind.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2011 9:02:34 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse Oh look what the Arctic oscillation can do. Warm where it should be cold, cold where it should be warm, net zero. Arctic Oscillation Chills North America, Warms Arctic
majjad Champion Author Dallas Posts:6,448 Points:1,429,400 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2011 12:57:27 AM Ignore majjad Report Abuse Once again, catspaw is lying by misquoting and misrepresenting what others are posting: Catspaw: Funny, isn't it that majjad thinks Britain having a cold winter Is "a real fact" and Canada having a warm decade isn't a real fact. A bit of selective editing on majjad's part there..." Catspaw is grossly misrepresenting the facts here: I never made ANY comment whatsoever concerning the Canadian data or my opinion concerning its importance. His statement is a prevarication bordering on sIander. I was reacting to the demeaning and arrogant tone of his post, a tone that is typical of an elitist/leftist who thinks he knows so much more than the "ignorant masses." Catspaw has no clue what I think since he has never asked my opinion (or that of anyone else on this board), and I seriously doubt he is a mind reader. The data concerning Canada and Australia are just as important as that from Britain. I was merely reporting what I had heard on the BBC. I made no claims that this was an earth-shattering revelation. By the way, how do we measure global temperature if we do not AVERAGE temperatures from various locations around the globe? If those local temperatures are changing significantly, will it not affect the average, the standard deviation and the statistical distribution used to model them? And if the presumed greenhouse gas induced climates change has NO local impact, then how do we test the theory - or why should we care? And if catspaw cannot even accurately represent what is posted on this board, how can we believe anything he says?
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2011 10:22:22 PM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse Sorry LDH, but if you’d actually read them instead of engaging in your usual childish sport of being insulting every time you see a post from me, you would have seen that my first post was giving an opposite, but real life example to demonstrate how majjad’s post was irrelevant. It actually DID address an issue, despite your protestation otherwise, in that local temperatures, even continent-wide temperatures, don’t mean anything in relation to global temperature. My second post, while admittedly insulting, was merely in response to majjad being insulting first. You DO remember of course that I will respond to insults with insults? Seeing of course as how you normally start off with an insult (as you did here) and then get all offended if responded to in kind. Seems that you can dish it out but you can’t take it. (Funny, isn’t it that majjad thinks Britain having a cold winter is “a real fact” and Canada have a warm decade isn’t a real fact. A bit of selective editing on majjad’s part there, not that she’d ever admit it (nor will LDH ever man-up enough to admit his insults either)) Oh, BTW LDH, since I'm male, I'll thank you to remember that in your next insulting post to me (I have no doubt you'll carry on your infantile tradition). Since you've now been forwarned, if you persist in labelling me as female, I WILL consider it a personal attack and report you accordingly. When I find something incorrect, I have the decency to tell you that I won't tolerate it, unlike yourself who after more than a year still haven't been able to bring yourself to tell me why you object to me using your initials, but just go and start your namecalling again.
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2011 12:00:07 PM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse Sorry, Art48, but I was just pointing out that catspaw's last two posts are just insults, and don't address any issues in any way. Can we talk about facts, please?
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2011 9:41:37 AM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse I've been gone for a while, but nothings changed: still a grammar school playground. ;-(
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2011 1:21:28 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse majjad, you might as well ignore catspaw. She seems to be yet another one of those ideologists who can't get past her own foolishness and just goes out of her way to be insulting and foolish.
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2011 12:56:28 AM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse Art, you might as well ignore majjad. She seems to be yet another one of those ideologists who can't get past her own foolishness and just goes out of her way to be insulting and foolish.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jan 30, 2011 11:02:45 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse majjad - Was the report just concerning the British Isles or was it worldwide? There is a big difference. Australia was suffering though one of the hottest summers ever at the same time. So does that still mean it was a cold year? Please explain what you are hoping to show by your example.
gougedQC Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,130 Points:69,885 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 7:39:52 PM Ignore gougedQC Report Abuse I-75at7am HIMALYAN GLACIER REPORT -if you look at the ACTUAL report and the graphs provided you will see that 65% of the monsoon induced glaciers are retreating in the karokoram region, more than 50% of the westerly (wind) influenced glaciers are stable or advancing. This however is only one of the six regions studied..meaning the glaciers are retreating in the five other regions.. meaning the MAJORITY of glaciers are melting. The study examines the effect of debris on the surface of the glacier and its effect upon melting..and the geography (steepness and ground topography over which the glacier runs)...NOT warming or climate change specifically "More than 65% of the monsoon-influenced glaciers that we observed are retreating, but heavily debris-covered glaciers with stagnant low-gradient terminus regions typically have stable fronts. Debris-covered glaciers are common in the rugged central Himalaya, but they are almost absent in subdued landscapes on the Tibetan Plateau, where retreat rates are higher. In contrast, more than 50% of observed glaciers in the westerlies-influenced Karakoram region in the northwestern Himalaya are advancing or stable. Our study shows that there is no uniform response of Himalayan glaciers to climate change and highlights the importance of debris cover for understanding glacier retreat, an effect that has so far been neglected in predictions of future water availability or global sea level" THUS THE HEADLINE AND STORY YOU LINKED TO IS DISTORTED AND TOTALLY MISLEADING...and ,,,,,the majority of glaciers are indeed melting
gougedQC Champion Author Montreal Posts:5,130 Points:69,885 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 7:20:57 PM Ignore gougedQC Report Abuse arctic water is warmer than it has been in 2000 years "We found that modern Fram Strait water temperatures are well outside the natural bounds." which means it is the result of human activity.,,something the scientists have clearly stated in interviewsWARMEST ARCTIC in 2000 years
I75at7AM Champion Author Dayton Posts:66,563 Points:2,435,395 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Jan 28, 2011 11:23:36 AM Ignore I75at7AM Report Abuse Upon further research: Himalayan glaciers not melting because of climate change, report finds . Some Himalayan glaciers are retreating, others are advancing or stable. But there is no discernable pattern to the glacial extent changes and "climate change". [Edited by: I75at7AM at 1/28/2011 12:26:56 PM EST]
TadeuszK Champion Author Manitoba Posts:4,718 Points:1,197,230 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 27, 2011 8:48:32 AM Ignore TadeuszK Report Abuse REAL FACTS- Just the UK and just for one winter. Do you not give first aid to a wounded soldier because you can not find a pulse in his Foot? Global means the whole planet all of the time. Just to big for some to grasp!
majjad Champion Author Dallas Posts:6,448 Points:1,429,400 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jan 26, 2011 11:26:04 PM Ignore majjad Report Abuse Gee, sounds like another of those global warming/ greenhouse gas deceivers getting her panties in a wad after being confronted with REAL FACTS that do not jive with the Al Gore deception agenda...
catspaw Champion Author Toronto Posts:29,929 Points:3,149,735 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2011 10:59:13 PM Ignore catspaw Report Abuse Gee, sounds like another one of those GW denyer 'mountain out of molehill' posts, taking one local item and thinking it's important. It was in the news just yesterday that Canada has just had the warmest decade in its history. That's just as unimportant as your 'news'.
majjad Champion Author Dallas Posts:6,448 Points:1,429,400 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2011 11:23:10 AM Ignore majjad Report Abuse I just heard on BBC Radio that December, 2010, was the coldest December in 100 years. It was so cold that it apparently had a negative effect on the economy.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 14, 2010 12:47:43 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse Some straight answers from those who know. You will be seeing quotes from these guys in the near future, without all the hysteria and misinformation. American Geophysical Union (AGU)
airfresh Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:15,228 Points:827,795 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Nov 10, 2010 9:19:09 AM Ignore airfresh Report Abuse and here's a great film about to be released
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 10, 2010 9:17:09 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse Here's a news article about the collapse of the climate exchange.
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 5, 2010 8:27:43 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse Oh, and powdered aluminum and a little sugar added to ammonium nitrate fertilizer will make it explode much faster.
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 5, 2010 8:26:18 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse Chlorine Bleach reacts energetically with lots of stuff. And it's really bad for the environment, too...
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2010 11:11:15 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse I read an article recently about how it's getting hard to find decent chemists, as so many high school chemistry classes have all the fun stuff removed because they can't ship the chemicals. About 2/3 of the stuff in the "Mister Wizard" chemistry set for 10 year olds of the '50s are currently banned from shipments.
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2010 6:08:47 AM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse I liked mixing pool shock and brake fluid. At least I could easily buy those 2 at wall mart.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 3, 2010 12:00:28 AM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse And then there is Potassium Permanganate and Glycerin. Slow to self ignite but makes a hot purple flame and purple smoke.
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2010 8:43:06 PM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse Thermite, reminds me of my middle school days.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Nov 1, 2010 2:24:35 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse oilpan4 - Rust and powdered aluminum are rather benign until you apply a lot of heat to the mixture, then you have a ferrite bomb able to cut through steel or weld steel objects together. It doesn't take very much, and it doesn't take much ammonium nitrate and diesel to make a bomb, just depends on the size you want.
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2010 10:25:16 AM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse The sun needs to be turned back on here.
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2010 6:45:30 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse Hey! Who turned off the weather! There's no weather outside! ;-D [Edited by: ldheinz at 10/28/2010 7:46:50 AM EST]
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2010 6:22:57 AM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse "Disruption" makes me think of something that will corrected. Like a cable TV or internet disruption.
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 28, 2010 12:41:51 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse "Climate Disruption", eh? I wonder what it'll be called next week.
I75at7AM Champion Author Dayton Posts:66,563 Points:2,435,395 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Oct 27, 2010 3:08:07 PM Ignore I75at7AM Report Abuse Global Warming - now call it "Climate Disruption" Please make a note of it. The PC police will be watchin what you say, as usual. [Edited by: I75at7AM at 10/27/2010 4:09:23 PM EST]
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2010 11:07:16 AM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse Its harmless as long as you dont mix a fuel with it or have 10s of tons of it involved in a warehouse or barge/container ship fire.
ldheinz Champion Author Chicago Posts:19,048 Points:2,360,820 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2010 2:08:34 AM Ignore ldheinz Report Abuse I've been using up several bags that I bought free after rebate, but last I checked ammonium nitrate fertilizer was stacked on pallets at my local home store.
oilpan4 Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,062 Points:306,900 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2010 6:22:48 PM Ignore oilpan4 Report Abuse I plan on buying lots of ammonium nitrate and tannerite after I move to newmexico. There are not very many restrictions. Last time I bought some was in 2002 in maine, paid cash, no questions asked.
Art48 Champion Author Sacramento Posts:2,586 Points:96,805 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Oct 24, 2010 4:14:30 PM Ignore Art48 Report Abuse In case anyone was wondering about temperatures in the Central Pacific, New record highs were set in Hawaii on 10/23/2010. New record high for Hawaii ldheinz - I could have sworn it was illegal to sell ammonium nitrate to anyone unless they had a permit, seeing how it is used to make bombs. You have to be registered and the fertilizer is tracked. Perhaps you mean ammonium sulfate, which cannot be used in bombs and anyone can purchase at their local garden center. Please refer to the Homeland Security Regulations regarding Ammonium Nitrate.