cpl11787

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 8:46:20 PM
good thing.
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Martinman

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Mar 21, 2010 7:36:14 PM
... and once again, the ranting-right, with their claims of "socialism" and that government can't do anything right...
... was proven wrong yet again...
It worked. It accomplished what it was designed to accomplish. It greatly reduced the cost to the American taxpayer that would have occurred, had we simply allowed "them to fail", adding another 2.9 million Americans to the ranks of the unemployed.
[Edited by: Martinman at 3/21/2010 8:39:38 PM EST]
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 10:42:43 PM
OMG! So C4C didn't end life on earth as we know it? Millions of cars weren't repossessed because the buyers were stupid? So the Dow, S&P index, NASDAQ aren't all up (when was the last time Dow was over 10,700?) since C4C was instituted? All Auto mechanics are all out of work with no clunkers left to fix? Salvage yards have all gone broke?
Millions of more fuel efficient cars hit the roads, so the demand for gas is rising? The auto industry, in many States, isn't going to build more cars after those record sales? Manufacturers haven't added overtime and aren't calling back employees?
“The program was a dismal failure,” “The program was a dismal failure,” “The program was a dismal failure,”….. when I said that often enough, I startrd to believe it regardless of the facts! Empirical evidence be darned! All the news is slanted. I wanted to be able to sit back and say, “I told you so,”
Only Now I can't! Hmmmmm!
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zakarpattya

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Mar 20, 2010 2:52:07 PM
WCCurtis wrote: "But are the Auto Companies making a profit? It would be terrible if GM and Chrysler ending up never making a profit like the Post Office and Amtrak which only survive with the Government/Taxpayer backing them. If these Companies can not make it on their own let them die since not to far in the distance the Taxpayer will be tapped out. China and Japan will not always be there to loan us money if they fall on hard times."
I disagree. All very large countries should have at least one domestic automaker, with two or three being better for competition. I consider heavy manufacturing an important part of infrastructure. I believe they also can be used for military manufacturing during war.
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Pete12

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Albany
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 7:14:00 PM
This is good news. I hope it continues.
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ops3

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 7:13:46 PM
Sure, cars wear out eventually!
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CiVX

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 6:54:03 PM
WHY!
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pgerassi

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 4:31:34 PM
Around here sales have been quite low.
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WCCurtis

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 4:18:18 PM
But are the Auto Companies making a profit? It would be terrible if GM and Chrysler ending up never making a profit like the Post Office and Amtrak which only survive with the Government/Taxpayer backing them. If these Companies can not make it on their own let them die since not to far in the distance the Taxpayer will be tapped out. China and Japan will not always be there to loan us money if they fall on hard times.
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caddilac

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 4:17:56 PM
And this has what to do with gas prices?
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ILVET

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 4:07:02 PM
And their buying gas guzzling suv's
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ChuckGVT

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Vermont
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 4:02:11 PM
Who says the economy is improving?
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brus282

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 4:02:01 PM
would like to buy, but no money equal no buying
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Eichhornchen

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:56:18 PM
Better buy while you still have some money.
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camel1

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:55:34 PM
Those who can afford new cars are buying, the rest of us get by with what we have
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goldilox88

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:53:53 PM
Economy is improving.
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bbreff

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:48:15 PM
I would like a new vehicle, but without a job in a few months, no chance.
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olcowboy14

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Spokane
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:45:49 PM
Makes me wonder who is buying them? Is there a finance bail out going on that I don't know about?
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:44:47 PM
RovingOkie67 wrote:
>President Obama should stop shoving health care >and socialism down our throats.
President Obama is no Socialist.
Brian Moore is a Socialist. In fact, he was the Socialist candidate for President in 2008.
The difference will be obvious after reading the Brian Moore site for about five minutes.
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dollarwatcher

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Wisconsin
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:44:08 PM
Who can afford to buy new anymore?
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virginia52

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Alaska
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:43:46 PM
I wish I could afford a new car now as I've seen some really sweet deals but alas I don't have the money for a new car now. I'm glad to see sales are improving.
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DellDude2

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Nashville
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:43:37 PM
If sales go really well (not likely), they could call it "March Madness", since who has money to burn right now.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:40:50 PM
joel27nc wrote:
>This is nice to hear. BUY AMERICAN!!!
Define "Buy American."
Hint: It's not having the world headquarters in Wayne County, Michigan.
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badbonita

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Syracuse
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:37:31 PM
It's good that auto sales are improving. Now if the unemployment numbers would only go down because people are getting jobs.
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TAT36

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Florida
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:32:28 PM
Still about 25% off from the high number of 16 million.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:30:53 PM
This is nice to hear. BUY AMERICAN!!!
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nigelb

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:29:21 PM
I'll keep my '97 Honda - the new ones are too expensive.
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oldiesman

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New York
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:26:58 PM
something looking up for a change.
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TRAIN RIDER

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:25:27 PM
I AM GLAD TO SEE SOMETHING GOING UP. THAT IS A GOOD SIGN.
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TFowler513

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Memphis
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:10:26 PM
It's not going to last. Just a blimp on the radar. The economy has to improve first and the only way that is going to happen is with the return of jobs!!!
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njerald

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 3:05:27 PM
Yawn....
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georgeo

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California
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:57:42 PM
Get those autos before they run out.
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eddmac

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Washington
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:43:00 PM
My 96 is showing some aging. So for fun I went down to look at some replacements USED. Three years old. Prices were nuts, you could buy some new one for less. Of course it what I want. After consideration the need side won out over want. I am not going to buy any.
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murphy50

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:42:16 PM
This is a good sign.
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threewheeler

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:38:42 PM
This is nice to hear. BUY AMERICAN!!!
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neemund

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:36:00 PM
I have neither a regular job, nor the money to replace my 1994 S-10. I'm not going to borrow money just so I can get a vehicle that go 10 miles farther per gallon of gas. And the increased insurance premiums alone would more than offset any potential savings at the pump.
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POLELANE

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:35:44 PM
Toyota undoubtedly has problems; exacerbated by not fessing up right away. I could believe that USA automakers and thier lobbyists in DC are fueling the fire to improve their personal sad agenda
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Dennisjk

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:33:51 PM
They need a steady flow of increased sales before anyone can signal the fat lady to sing.
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byoftDad

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:33:33 PM
There are many Toyota ads on local TV stations in Columbus. It seems that suddenly Toyota has found many people that will swear by their Toyota. I think that Toyota and the government are in bed together and the claims of run away Toyotas are being covered up by the company and the Federal Government. It wouldn’t be the first time our government hid things from the public.
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suzyq2007

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:30:39 PM
that is good news for the car companies, but I doubt if this means a lot
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jeromehasbargen

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Minnesota
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:29:08 PM
Sales and people getting their tax refunds probably have a lot to do with it.
[Edited by: jeromehasbargen at 3/19/2010 3:29:30 PM EST]
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Valricoslash

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:28:38 PM
All based on big incentives because sales have been down for so long they will do anything to get their sales up.
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Laszlo01

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:22:21 PM
so what?
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copperhead8

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Boston
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:16:34 PM
No matter how many incentives Toyota is giving, you couldn't get me to buy one.
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FastAndy

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:13:45 PM
Good sign for the economy, until Congress and Obama screw it up.
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:13:27 PM
More people getting into useless debt.
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wardancerr

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Tucson
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:08:23 PM
Great deals?...or your life?
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Savingqueen

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:06:34 PM
Really, are people buying Toyota?
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lgwhitlock

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Chico
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 2:04:17 PM
It's probably the big incentives Toyota is offering combined with tax returns...
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Jeeputtputt

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Mar 19, 2010 1:54:49 PM
It's not warm weather. It's all the GREAT DEALS on Toyota's!!!
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